Johann Hockerts & Margaretha Hammes:
a case study as stories move to genealogy

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by Alice Marie Beard

Johann HOCKERTS and Margaretha HAMMES are the parents of my two-greats-grandfather, George Hooker; I descend from George's oldest daughter. Discovering the origins of this ancestral couple has been the result of distant cousins finding me and reaching out.

The cousin who shared the story below was Richard "Dick" Weil, Judge Weil if you were in his court room. He was a municipal judge in Bexar County, Texas, from 1997 through 2008. He was an attorney in Bexar County for 50 years -- in private practice, as a prosecutor, and as a judge. He descended from George Hooker's sister Mary, another child of Johann and Margaretha. In 1975, Judge Weil's aunt, Mildred B. Weil, wrote down a family story. He shared it with me sometime before 2000.

Is the story true? Well, all families have "stories," but stories are not genealogy. However, a good genealogist never discounts those "stories." Thus, here is the story, about two people from long ago: John HOCKERTS and Margaret HAMMES. Below the story is a genealogical attempt to find the truth.


The Story

The story deserves some respect if only as a nice story written by a seventy-year-old lady who was trying to repeat a story that had been told to her. In 1975, a woman who was a granddaughter of John and Margaret's daughter Mary took pen in hand and wrote the following story in beautiful handwriting. The story mentions embroidering linens. It's a nice word to be in the story because the story is likely well-embroidered. In some family stories, dead people get richer as the years pass, and grass gets greener, and life becomes perfect. When wives and mothers die young -- as it appears Margaret did -- they become more beautiful and more like saints. But a good story is a good story, and occasionally a bit of genealogical truth can be found even in the most embroidered story. The story was written down by Mildred B. Weil (b. 2-Jul-1905), who became Mrs. William Carpenter. Mrs. Carpenter put the story on paper at the request of her brother's son. On with the story:

What I know of my father's family are the stories his mother (my Grandma Weil) told me.

Six
[miscount?] generations ago grandma's mother [i.e., Margaret Hames] was born in Germany, the daughter of an influential man. He was the "right hand" man to the Kaiser. Grandma's mother was one of several sisters. They lived on a large beautiful estate and they were all educated. In those days only about 10% of the German people could read and write. The sisters also learned the "gentle arts." They spun the flax, wove linen and embroidered it. They sat together on the well kept lawns with their newly woven linens spread out on the neatly clipped grass in the sun. They had buckets of water which they used to sprinkle the linen so that the sun would bleach it white. They sat nearby in the shade of the large trees and embroidered their previously bleached linens. The girls took turns reading aloud while the others embroidered.

The estate was large, beautifully kept, and had a staff of gardeners. The gardens were formal with precisely clipped hedges, majestic trees, lovely flowers, and also in a secluded place an adequate vegetable garden which supplied the family table.

A handsome apprentice gardener was Mr.
[John] Hookard who fell in love with one of the sisters [Margaret Hammes]. They courted when possible, in trysting places behind hedges and in the Gazebo (a garden house). They also exchanged letters or notes in a secret "post office" in a hollow tree. Finally they eloped with plans so well laid that they eluded pursuit, were married, and the story of their escape is interesting.

The girl managed to sneak out necessary clothing, etc., from the house which Mr. Hookard hid in a culvert under a road on a nearby estate. He also dug out a sort of a cave under the culvert and stocked it with blankets, water, and food. They spent three nights and two days in the cave while the girl's family hunted for them. An accomplice picked them up the third night in a carriage. Somehow they reached the sea coast and boarded a sailing ship for America.

They had saved up some money and finally arrived in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Mr. Hookard and a partner operated a brick kiln in Allentown for many years. Mrs. Hookard's father finally located her and asked her to come home, but she refused. By that time they had several children. Since she had married a "commoner," her father disinherited her, but he must have been a kind man because he sent her a monthly allowance so long as she lived.

I don't know how many children the Hookards had, but there must have been about six of them. Mrs. Hookard died in child birth, and since Mary (Grandma Weil) was the oldest, she became mother to the family at an early age.

THE END!


First, it is known that they existed:


This is always worth proving because, in genealogy hunts, occasionally people turn out to be like St. Catherine with her palm frond and wagon wheel: a "symbol of a person" who was created to hold a family together, but who never existed in reality.

The easiest "finds" for the family were the 1850 and 1860 census.

1850: John and Margaret HOCKARDS are found in Racine, Racine County, Wisconsin, as a couple with children. On 29-Jul-1850, a census taker recorded the family as John Hockards, age 36, laborer, born in Germany; Margaret Hockards, age 33, born in Germany; Catherine Hockards, age 7, born in Germany;
George Hockards, age 5, born in Germany; Mary Hockards, age 2, born in Indiana; Henry Hockards, age 3/12 [3 months], born in Wisconsin. Relationships are not noted on the 1850 census. However, all are listed together in a household, with "ditto" marks for the surnames. Clearly, this was a family: husband, wife, and children.

1860: John HICKARDS is found in Lafayette, Tippecanoe County, Indiana: dwelling 803, family 756, age 45, laborer, born in Germany. He is listed with five young people: Catherine Hickards, age 17, born in Prussia;
George Hickards, age 15, laborer, born in Prussia; Mary Hickards, age 12, born in Indiana; Henry Hickards, age 9, born in Wisconsin, in school during the year; Theodore Hickards, age 6, born in Wisconsin, in school during the year. Catherine, George, Mary, and Henry match to the 1850 census; new is Theodore, born since the 1850 census. Wife Margaret is gone.

A bit more hunting found the family on an 1846 ship's passenger list. The family
arrived in New York on October 14, 1846, on a ship named "Niobe." The ship had sailed from Antwerp, Belgium. The information is from "1820-1850 New York Passenger and Immigration Lists." Family identification number was 348389. (Microfilm serial number: M237; microfilm roll number: 64.) Family name was misread and indexed as "Hockerty." Johan, 32; Margretha, 28; Anna Catherina, 7; George 2.

The family grouping also is found in an 1863 letter
filed with the court in Tippecanoe County, Indiana, in the "Docket of Letters of Guardians":

Name of Guardian: John Hockers
Date of Letter: 1863, March 23
Name of Surety: John Bongen
Names and ages of Wards:
...Catharine Hockers, 20 years
...George Hockers, 18 years
...Mary Hockers, 15 years
...Henry Hockers, 12 years
...Theodore Hockers, 10 years
Citation Feby 14.67
Citation dismissed and Letter revoked Feb 29, 1868 12-75

The document quoted above was created with handwriting and is not 100% legible. Initially, I had misread the surety's name as "Bonjew." The letter indicates that John Hockers (i.e., Hockertz) was appointed guardian of an asset intended for the children, and that someone named "John Bongen" posted a surety bond guaranteeing that John Hockers would handle the asset honestly for the children.

Those four records clearly establish the family's existence in the world of reality. Ignoring the spelling variations, we see John and Margaret arrive in the USA in 1846 with their children Catherine and George. In about 1848, at least Margaret was in Indiana for the birth of Mary. In 1850, the family is in Racine, Wisconsin. In about 1854, at least Margaret was in Wisconsin for the birth of Theodore. In 1860, they are in Lafayette, Indiana, but Margaret is gone. In 1863, they are in Lafayette, Indiana, with all children connected to John. The family name showed variously as Hockerty, Hockards, Hickards, and Hockers.

Thus, we have established that crucial first point: They existed!


Second, is the story true?

We begin to fill out some family information with bits and pieces:

In a published "History of Tippecanoe County," available at the historical/genealogical society in Tippecanoe County, there is mention of a son of John DAHM and Katherine HOOCKER, both natives of Germany: George E. Dahm (page 160). "Katherine Hoocker" is the same as "Catharine Hockers," who is the same as "Catherine Hickards," who is the same as "Catherine Hockards," who is found in German records as "Catherine Hockertz." Katherine's son George is noted as connected to St. Mary's Catholic Church of Lafayette, Indiana. Katherine's husband John Dahm is noted as having been employed by the Wabash Railroad for 35 years.

We find from the historical/genealogical society in Tippecanoe Co., Indiana, notation of a Clara Ann McDonald Hooker, b. 4-Apr-1859, Carroll Co., IN; d. 9-Aug-1945; buried at the Lutheran Cemetery; wife of Theodore Hooker. That gives us the name of the wife of the 10-year-old noted as "
Theodore Hockers" in the 1863 "Docket of Letters of Guardians." From the same source is Clarence Hooker, b. 1886; d. 31-May-1931, age 45; son of Theodore; buried at Lutheran Cemetery also. It is reasonable to suspect that Clarence was the son of Theodore Hooker and Clara Ann McDonald.

From Theodore's death certificate filed with the Indiana State Board of Health, there is the following:

Theodore Hooker;
County of Tippecanoe;
Township of Washington;
date of death: Nov. 17, 1905.
PERSONAL INFO:
male, white, married;
name of wife: Clara Hooker;
date of birth: Dec. 7, 1854;
age: 50 years, 4 months;
occupation: farmer;
birthplace: Wisconsin;
place of death: Washington Twp.
name of father: John Hookar
birthplace of father: Germany
maiden name of mother:
Hames
birthplace of mother: Germany
above stated personal particulars provided by: Mrs. Weil of Delphi, IN
[Further research proved Mrs. Weil to be the "
Mary Hockers" who was 15 in 1863 for the "Document of Letters of Guardians." Mary married Thomas Weil and was living in Delphi, IN, in 1905.]
MEDICAL INFO:
cause of death: tetanus
duration: four days
attended by physician
death occured 10:13 A.M.
place of burial: Colburn

Some tiny bits begin to repeat in family stories:

When the same tiny bits of information are told by people who descend from common ancestors but who themselves have never met or corresponded, a genealogist begins to consider that it is reasonable to note such information tentatively -- with the understanding that the information needs acceptable corroboration.

Three people not in contact claim that the family was Roman Catholic:

  • The 94-year-old widow of a great-grandson of John and Margaret wrote in 1987 that John and Margaret's son George was Catholic: "Grandpa Hooker [George Hooker] was never a Dunkard [Brethren]; he was a Catholic. Grandma [Elizabeth Hufford] was a Dunkard. I hear they used to argue about religion."
  • A 70-year-old great-granddaughter of John & Margaret thru their daughter Mary wrote in 1975: "Grandpa Weil [Thomas Weil] was a Methodist. Grandma [Mary, daughter of John & Margaret] was reared Catholic, but she became a Methodist for him. All of her brothers, sister, cousins, etc., were Catholic."
  • John and Mary's daughter Catharine/Catherine/Katherine definitely was Catholic. This is beyond a claim. She died 3-Nov-1890, her mortal remains were buried at St. Joseph Catholic Cemetery in Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., Indiana. It helps to know Catholic church rules of that time: In 1890 she would not have been buried in a Catholic cemetery unless she had been Catholic.

Therefore, we have claims that two of the five children were Catholic (George and Mary), and proof that a third was Catholic (Catherine).

This fits with one other tiny bit of info that repeats: the family was from near Trier, Germany. That area of Germany would have been predominately Catholic in the 1840s when John and Margaret would have left Germany.

On the 1860 census, both John & Margaret's daughter Catherine and their son George were noted as born in Prussia -- not Germany as the father is noted, but Prussia, an area that would include Trier.

  • In 1968, a daughter of John & Margaret's son George wrote, "My father was born in Trier, Germany."
  • Sometime before he died in 1947, a son of John & Margaret's son George wrote that his father was from "Bezirk. Trier Bein Praving Germany." He also noted that George's father was John Hockards, and his mother was Margritte Hommace.

Notice the variation on the mom's last name. The first name is obviously Margaret (and the German variation of Margaret). The last name, however, has now shown as "Hommace" and as "Hames" (on her son Theodore's death certificate). That might suggest that one was spelling it the way it sounded [hom-mace], and the other closer to an actual spelling [Hames].

A search of "Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898" found Margaretha's birth date, baptismal date, and parents' names

Name: Margaretha Hammes
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1817
Baptism Date: 6 Aug 1817
Baptism Place: Katholisch, Grosskampenberg, Rheinland, Prussia
Father: Gregorii Hammes 
Mother: Mariae Puetz
FHL Film Number: 462723

"Katholisch" is simply the German word for "Catholic." Großkampenberg is a tiny municipality in the district of Bitburg-Prüm ("Eifel" area) in Rhineland-Palatinate, close to the border with Belgium. Großkampenberg is about 50 miles north/northwest from Trier. In 2014, the population of Großkampenberg is 156 people (according to information at wikipedia); in 2014, the population of Trier is over 100,000.

Looking back at an earlier find:

Back to that letter found in the court house in Lafayette, Indiana. Obviously, something happened before 23-Mar-1863 that involved the children. That was clear from the "Letter of Guardian." The determination of who Margaretha Hammes' father was suggests what the Letter of Guardian was about. Three months before the letter was filed with the court in Tippecanoe County, Indiana, Margaretha's father had died. He died in Oberraden, Germany, on 24-Jan-1863. George Hammes was the maternal grandfather of John Hockertz' five children. Apparently the children had inherited something from the grandfather, and John Hockertz was named to protect the children's interest.

The surety was John Bongen. It took until 2014 for me to figure out that John Bogen was family, not a hired bondsman. John Bongen and John Hockertz were first cousins. They had crossed the Atlantic Ocean on the same ship, the Niobe, in 1846. John Hockertz was 32 and crossed with his wife and two young children. John Bongen was 22 and crossed with his parents and two siblings. John Hockertz' mother and John Bongen's father were siblings. In other words, when John Hockertz came to the USA, he and his young family were traveling with his 52-year-old maternal uncle, Jacob Bongen.

It should be noted that John Hockertz' mother was Anna Margaretha WEYRES. That was her maiden name. Yet her full brother's name was Jacob BONGEN. The two had the same parents: Philipp BONGEN (1748-1796) and Maria Catharina WEYRES (1756-1828). However, the daughter carried the mother's family name, and the son carried the father's family name. Although we find that unusual in 2014 in the USA, in the time and place and social station in which they were born, it was not unusual for a child to carry the family name of the mother, if the mother's family had a bit more "prominence" or a bit more money.


Reality

Back to how much of the "story" is true:

The oldest two children were born in Germany (or Prussia) which begins to put a fly in the ointment. Now, you have to tell yourself, "Okay, maybe the couple hid for a few years in Europe before coming to America."

The family arrived in the USA in October 1846. Daughter Mary was born in October 1847 in Indiana. The next child was born in 1850 in Wisconsin. The next child was born in 1855 in Wisconsin. By 1860, the father and children were back in Indiana, in Lafayette County, Indiana. When were they in Allentown, Pennsylvania, as the story claims? Quoting from the story, "Mr. Hookard and a partner operated a brick kiln in Allentown [Pennsylvania] for many years." Something doesn't fit.

However, the mention of John running a brick kiln is interesting for this reason: After serving in the U.S. Civil War, John's son George worked for a man making bricks in Carroll Co., Indiana.

The story says that Mary was the oldest of the children? No. Records clearly show she had both an older brother and an older sister. However, brothers seldom "mother," and that older sister was married in about 1861. Mary likely did have to "mother" the two younger brothers, Henry b. 1850 and Theodore b. 1855.

The story of the wealthy family of Margaret Hammes can be taken with a grain of salt. Margaret's family may have been better off than John Hockerts' family; possibly John even worked for Margaret's family, but the story of enormous wealth and being the "right hand" to the Kaiser is probably like the embroidery on the linen.

Mary likely was less than 13 when she lost her mother. Her stories may have grown out of her grief.

But it's a nice bedtime story.


Family Group Record

The following family group info has been pieced together. The surname is spelled "Hooker" for the children simply because two sons who passed the name on settled on the spelling HOOKER. It is not known whether the third son (Henry) had any children:
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HUSBAND:
John HOCKERTS
BORN: Jun 1812, Trier, Germany
DIED: 30-Jan-1876, IN
MARR: Bef 1842
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WIFE: Margaret HAMMES
BORN: Abt 1817, Germany
DIED: probably before Jun 1860, USA
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CHILDREN
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1. NAME:
Anna Katharina HOOKER
BORN: 4 May 1842, Germany
DIED: 3 Nov 1890, Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN
BUR.: St. Joseph Catholic Cemetery, Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN
SPOUSE: John DAHM
MARR: Abt 1861, IN
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2. NAME:
George HOOKER
BORN: 8 Aug 1844, Trier, Germany
DIED: 3 May 1921, Carroll Co., IN
BUR.: Pyrmont Cemetery, Carroll Co., IN
SPOUSE:
Elizabeth HUFFORD
MARR: 29 Sep 1870, Carroll Co., IN
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3. NAME:
Mary HOOKER
BORN: 16 Oct 1847, IN
DIED: 13 Sep 1929, Pasadena, CA
BUR.: Masonic Cemetery, Delphi, Carroll Co., IN
SPOUSE: Thomas Franklin WEIL
MARR: 1869, IN
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4. NAME:
Henry HOOKER
BORN: Abt Apr 1850, Racine, WI
DIED: 21 Jun 1881, IN
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5. NAME:
Theodore HOOKER
BORN: 7 Dec 1855, Racine, WI
DIED: 17 Nov 1905, Tippecanoe Co., IN
BUR.: Lutheran Cemetery, Washington Twp., Tippecanoe Co., IN
SPOUSE: Clara Ann McDONALD


Descendancy Chart (thru grandchildren)

1-- John HOCKERTS (1814-1876)
.sp-Margaret HAMMES (1817-bef 1860)
....2-- Anna Katharina HOOKER (1842-1890)
.....sp-John DAHM (1828-aft 1900)
........3-- Lories DAHM (1862)
........3-- Mary DAHM (1863-1864)
........3-- Catherine A. "Kate" DAHM (1865-1915)
.........sp-William T. CLAREY, Sr. (1865-1934)
........3-- George E. DAHM (1867-1945)
.........sp-Julia M. RYAN (1873-1940)
........3-- John DAHM, Jr. (1869-1895)
........3-- Nicholas DAHM (1874)
.........sp-Mary K. HILDEBRANDT (1881-1962)
........3-- Theodore DAHM (1877-1898)
........3-- Charles Elias DAHM (1880-1951)
.........sp-Margaret Louise BENNETT (1879-1951)
........3-- Anna Catharine DAHM (1882-1953)
.........sp-Charles Gordon BENNETT (1884-1965)
........3-- Peter DAHM
....2-- George HOOKER (1844-1921)
.....sp-Elizabeth HUFFORD (1851-1929)
........3-- Sarah Catharine HOOKER (1871-1952)
.........sp-Jesse BEARD (1867-1939)
........3-- Mary Elizabeth HOOKER (1873-1963)
.........sp-Lorin Augustus HASLET, Rev. (1868-1952)
........3-- Rosa Ellen HOOKER (1874-1962)
.........sp-Clyde HURLEY (1873-1951)
........3-- George Washington HOOKER (1877-1947)
.........sp-Amanda McMASTERS (1877-1963)
........3-- William Edward HOOKER (1879-1950)
.........sp-Silvia COOK (1881-aft 1954
.........sp-Swanhild Ingeborg ERICKSON (1911-1992)
........3-- Theodore John Wesley HOOKER (1882-1957)
.........sp-Madeline GARD (1878-1966)
........3-- James Burton HOOKER (1884-1955)
.........sp-Adeline McMASTERS (1891-1979)
........3-- Dora Leona HOOKER (1886-1974)
.........sp-Auburn J. MALONEY (1895-1958)
........3-- Challence Oscar HOOKER (1889-1957)
.........sp-Ida ELVRAM (1902-1992)
....2-- Mary Gertrude HOOKER (1847-1929)
.....sp-Thomas Franklin WEIL (1847-1919)
........3-- Edwin George WEIL (1871-1931)
.........sp-Laura Gertrude RALSTON (1873-1955)
........3-- Cora E. WEIL (1873-1947)
.........sp-Halnor Arthur LANCASTER (1872-1910)
........3-- Viola M. WEIL (1874-1959)
.........sp-William S. CHAMBERS (1872-)
........3-- Sullivan WEIL
........3-- Theodore Austin WEIL (1879-1936)
.........sp-Bertha HAMILTON
........3-- Solomon WEIL (1879)
........3-- Charles Franklin WEIL (1884-1964)
.........sp-Kate ROBINSON (1883-1961)
........3-- Harry Ellsworth WEIL (1887-1954)
.........sp-Clessie Gertrude DUFF (1888-1924)
.........sp-Hulda Mae DUNN (1884-1957)
....2-- Henry HOOKER (1850-1881)
....2-- Theodore HOOKER (1855-1905)
.....sp-Clara Ann McDONALD (1859-1945)
........3-- Clarence T. HOOKER (1886-1931)
.........sp-Alice T. LAPPEL


CONTACT FROM A EUROPEAN COUSIN:

As a result of my sharing that old family story in my little corner of the internet, in 2003 I received an email and a guestbook entry from a genealogist who descends from a sister of Margaret Hammes. Below is the exchange, as now found in the guestbook for this genealogy site:

from Uwe Probst:
Apr 12, 2003
Uwe.Probst@vr-web.de
Hello Alice.
My name is Uwe Probst. I come from Bleialf, Germany. My home is about 10 km from Heckhuscheid, where Gertrud and Margaretha Hammes were born. John Hockertz was born in Ihren, a small town 8 km from Bleialf. My Great-great-greatgrandmother was Gertrud (Hammes) Rolloff. She was a sister of Margaretha (Hammes) Hockertz.
www.uprobst.de - That's my homepage.
Greetings,
Uwe

from Alice:
According to information found at Uwe's web site in 2003, Uwe's ancestor Gertrud and my ancestor Margaret were both daughters of Georg Ackerer HAMMES (1782-1863) and Maria PüTZ VULGO STANERS (1780-1823). From Uwe's information, it appears that George Ackerer Hammes died Jan. 24, 1863. That fits with the fact that on March 23, 1863, the widower of Margaretha Hammes (John Hockertz) was named as a guardian for some asset of his minor children. Our best guess had been that Margaretha's children took for their mother when her father died, and the dates provided by Mr. Probst would further suggest that.

A 'net search turned up this family group record:
George HAMMES & Maria PUTZ VULGO STANERS. Listed as a child to that couple is Margaretha HAMMES born 5-Aug-1817, in Heckhuscheid, Rhe-Pfa, Germany, with husband Johan HOCKERTZ. We had Margaret born about 1817; we could tell her approximate year of birth by how old she was on the ship's passenger list. The person who put up the page with the family group sheet for Margaretha Hammes' parents has accepted their Margaretha as a match to our Margaretha, and has included information from this researcher about the descendants of Margaretha Hammes.

Information below was copied from Uwe's site (
as it existed in 2003), except that I have substituted my own ancestors for slots 1, 2, and 3. (Additionally, by 2014, Mr. Probst's work can be found here: Uwe Probst at geneanet.org.) What is below shows only Margaretha Hammes' ancestors.

Generation 1
1 Hooker, George: b. 08.Aug.1844; d. 03.May.1921, Carroll Co., Indiana (m. Elizabeth Hufford in 1870)

Generation 2
2 Hockertz, John/Johann: b. 23.Mar.1814; d. after 23.Mar.1863
3 Hammes, Margaretha: b. 05.Aug.1817; d. probaby before June 1860

Generation 3
6 Hammes, Georg Ackerer * 06.01.1782 Winterspelt † 24.01.1863 Oberraden
7 Pütz vulgo Staners, Maria * 02.04.1780 Heckhuscheid † 02.01.1823 Heckhuscheid

Generation 4
12   Hammes, Nikolaus Ackerer * 16.04.1738 Winterspelt † < .1812 Winterspelt
13   Cremers, Margaretha * 09.09.1735 Winterspelt † 11.03.1800 Winterspelt
14   Pütz vulgo Staners, Gerhard Ackerer * 11.02.1759 Heckhuscheid † TN.1829 Heckhuscheid
15   Neuens, Anna Katharina * 27.08.1758 Leidenborn † Heckhuscheid

Generation 5
24   Hammes, Philipp Ackerer * um.1710 Winterspelt † 27.11.1739 Winterspelt
25   Habsch, Gertrud * 17.01.1712 Amelscheid † 22.08.1773 Winterspelt
26   Cremers, Philipp Ackerer, Schultheiß * 09.1705 Winterspelt † 09.08.1779 Winterspelt
27   Biehlen, Maria * 07.01.1703 Lünebach † 30.05.1780 Winterspelt
28   Pütz, Johann * 29.04.1731 Masthorn † TN.1784 Heckhuscheid
29   Staners, Maria * um.1740 Heckhuscheid † 13.05.1812 Heckhuscheid
30   Neuens Wilhelm * ??.1722 Leidenborn † 23.01.1779 Leidenborn
31   Weyers-unterst, Katharina * 09.04.1728 Hontheim † 15.01.1793 Leidenborn

Generation 6
48   Hammes, Johann Ackerer † 06.11.1732 Winterspelt
49   Rincken, Maria * um.1687 Winterspelt † 14.05.1741 Winterspelt
50   Faas, Georg Ackerer * Lanzerath † Amelscheid
51   Habsch, Helena * 26.07.1682 Amelscheid † 30.05.1747 Amelscheid
52   Hockertz, Johann Schultheiß des Hofes Winterspelt * Matzerath † ??.1748 Winterspelt
53   Cremers, Katharina * um.1670 Winterspelt † Winterspelt
54   Biehlen, Johann * um.1675 Lünebach † Lünebach
55   Meyers, Susanna * um.1681 Lünebach † Lünebach
56   Pütz, Joes Ackerer * 10.12.1685 Masthorn † Masthorn
57   Schöneckers, Elisabeth * Üttfeld † Masthorn
58   Hockelmans, Johann Hilarius * 16.09.1707 Winterscheid † Heckhuscheid
59   Staners, Anna * ??.1710 Heckhuscheid † TN.1758 Heckhuscheid
60   Neiens Johann † Leidenborn
61   N. (Neuens), Anna Elisabeth † TV.1758 Leidenborn
62   Schminnes, Anton Ackerer * 07.03.1691 Herscheid † 17.01.1767 Hontheim
63   Weyers unterst, Eva Joanna * 02.09.1693 Hontheim † 23.09.1748 Hontheim

Generation 7
98   Rincken, Johann Hilger * um.1650 Winterspelt
99   (Rincken), Katharina
102   Habsch, Nikolaus * 22.01.1663 Amelscheid † 31.01.1724 Amelscheid
103   Schue, Maria * Büdesfeld † 20.01.1695 Amelscheid
106   Schmitz, Heinrich Bergmann/Ackerer * Petit Thier † Winterspelt
107   Cremers, Margaretha * um.1640 Winterspelt † Winterspelt
112   Pütz, Matthias Ackerer * 07.07.1657 Masthorn † Masthorn
113   Meyers, Marig * Heisdorf † Masthorn
114   Schöneckers, Theodor
115   N. N.
116   Hockelmanns, Valentin * um.1670 Winterscheid † 10.06.1740 Winterscheid
117   Lamberts, Anna * 06.02.1671 Winterscheid † 26.02.1742 Winterscheid
124   Münichs, Lambert Ackerer * 18.08.1654 Herscheid † Herscheid
125   Pauls, Barbara * Hontheim † Herscheid
126   Weyers unterst, Bartholomäus Ackerer * Hontheim † 05.06.1702 Hontheim
127   Keupers, Margaretha * 21.02.1665 Hontheim † 28.02.1714 Hontheim

Generation 8
196   Rincken, Nikolaus * um.1625 Winterspelt
197   Scheuern, Anna † Winterspelt
204   Habsch, Martin † Amelscheid
205   Michels, Barbara † 15.04.1692 Amelscheid
214   Cremers, Paulus Schultheiß u. Schöffe * um.1620 Winterspelt † < .1691 Winterspelt
215   Probst, Kathrin * um.1620 Hemmeres † Winterspelt
224   Pütz, Huberti Ackerer * Masthorn † Masthorn
225   Keuls, N. * Pronsfeld † Masthorn
232   Hockelmanns, Johann Schultheiß † 11.12.1679 Winterscheid
233   (Hockelmans), Susanna * um.1640 Winterscheid † 17.04.1686 Winterscheid
234   Lamberts, Nikolaus * um.1635 Winterscheid † 12.11.1670 Winterscheid
235   Keschtges, Barbara * um.1640 Winterscheid † Hemmeres
248   Wirichs, Joannes gen. Hans Ackerer * 14.04.1630 Weinsfeld † 16.03.1689 Herscheid
249   Münichs, Marigen * Herscheid † < .1674 Herscheid
250   Pauls, N. † Hontheim
251   (Pauls), Anna * Hontheim † 29.12.1680 Herscheid
254   Pick, Johann Peter * Hontheim † 29.01.1690 Hontheim
255   Keupers, Adriane * Hontheim † TV.1671 Hontheim

Generation 9
392   Rincken, Michael Gerichts-und Amtsbote * um.1600 Winterspelt
393   (N. Rinken), Katharina
408   Habsch Jakob * um.1600 Amelscheid
409   N. N.
428   Cremers, Daniel * um.1590 Winterspelt † Winterspelt
429   N. (Cremers), N. † Winterspelt
430   Probst, Peter I Müller * um.1595 Hemmeres † Hemmeres
431   (Proost), N
468   Lamberts, Clasen * Winterscheid † 23.12.1662 Winterscheid
469   (Lamberts), Hausfrau † 27.10.1648 Winterscheid
496   Weyrichs, Nicolas * ??.1600 Weinsfeld
497   (Weyrichs), Marie * ??.1600 Niederprüm † Niederprüm

Generation 10
856   Cremers, Claß * Winterspelt † Winterspelt
857   (Cremers), Greth † Winterspelt
860   Probst Johann Müller * um.1570 Hemmeres
861   N. (Prost), N.


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